Allen Ginsberg Vs. John Lofton « A Nice Place:
GINSBERG: I would say there is a little element of S&M in your approach. Power.
LOFTON: No. I would say this is more like the kind of sex you like.
GINSBERG: And I would say this is the kind of power relationship you like, judging from your behavior.
LOFTON: Well, that’s certainly what S&M is all about—power.
GINSBERG: And you seem to like that don’t you? Have your sexual fantasies ever involved that kind of power relationship?
LOFTON: No, not to my knowledge, I’m a Christian. So I don’t fantasize.
GINSBERG: Do you ever have sexual fantasies?
GINSBERG: None at all?
LOFTON: No, I said I am a Christian.
GINSBERG: You’ve never had any sexual fantasies!
LOFTON: Before I was a Christian, I had them, absolutely.
GINSBERG: And since you’re a Christian you don’t?